“By your powers combined I am … Captain Planet.”
As college days were swiftly passing, Black folk used to hate this one part of the party … when they played Spanish music. If you want to know what it looks like to see someone who smells a fart but can’t say nothing about it, look at the face of all the Black folks standing on the side of the party when they start playing merengue at the party. Man was I glad I knew how to dance to salsa and merengue by time I got to college. That ish was like a “DRAW FOUR”! But still not being the best was a problem for me, so me and a Residence Hall Director put together salsa lessons once a week. This was the beginning of a great relationship. As a member of a Black Greek Lettered Organization, people always speculate, if it hadn’t have been Alpha what would it have been? And although people say Kappa, I be like, nope, nah, LUL son, those my dudes. We tag teamed in Cornell for things of EPIC PROPORTIONS. #FreeLUL. I’m just joking, there was really one choice or no choice.
Go back to college, one of my boys was Dominican and we used to have the same routine at every party, “you go round up your chicks, and I go round up my chicks and we meet back at the house say around two-thurrrrrdy.” You put a Black and Latin man in the same room and it’s an instant POWER CLAP.
On a serious note, this is the last post for Hispanic Heritage Month, next week we’ll go back to the regular programmed television. I am so glad to be at the end. I think that this last post will attempt to show you why I think we are all one big happy family and we should start acting like it. As I stated on The Book, the difference between Latino and Black is, “Your ship went that way, and my ship went this way.” We are all the same. We all have different stories, but they read the same with the same lessons. I think that many of the SBM readers have expressed that their crews are mixed in nature, but there’s still a large population of people segregated, or separated.
A few years ago, one of my Dominican female friends told me she was moving to Atlanta. She asked me about nightlife and I said, well, why are you moving down there? She said, she thought the social scene would be a change of pace from NYC. I hesitated a little before saying, “Well, I’m not trying to discourage you, but NYC can skew the picture of Black and Latino relations. In Atlanta, I’ve never seen it as mixed as in NYC, of course there were a few Latinas who frequented places like Compound, but it might have been four in the whole spot. For those who don’t know Atlanta, it’s called, Compound, think about it. She moved down there and then moved back less than a year later.
Next time I experienced this situation was in Oakland. My boy is Mexican and I thought it would be cool, but imagine my surprise when he told me, “Oh yeah, she not gonna date a Black guy.” What type of Nazi ish is that? He didn’t say she only dates Mexicans, he said, she doesn’t date Black guys. Ain’t that a b. I don’t like for people to single out a group of people they don’t like, “I don’t date white girls.” That’s just stupid to me, what if the girl of your dreams was a white girl? Race surely can’t be the reason you give God on judgment day that things didn’t work out with whom he intended for you to be with.
I’m a big family party type of person. I want to invite everyone to the party, I want everyone to have a great time, and I want everyone to play their music dance their ass off. I’ll go to a party where we can dance to the roughest of the roughest gangsta rap, salsa, reggae, bachata, samba and then all rock out to some Bon Jovi. The bigger the party and the more diverse the better. I’ve never felt comfortable being confined to one circle. Sort of like those people who refuse to leave Brooklyn, or can’t go to a party unless there’s reggae. I don’t discriminate people, I’d rather we came together than be apart.
In my opinion, there’s nothing better than a diverse group of friends. So as I take this last shot for Hispanic Heritage Month, pour myself another Pisco Scour, and finish it off with a glass of Brugal, I’m excited about my life because I live it in a world that doesn’t pit race against race, or nationality against nationality. I get so tired of hearing people thinking that we are in this competition with one another. We don’t have to be in competition together, we can put our powers together and be a movement.
Good stuff. People are a lot more alike than they'd like to admit. We all like to do the same things one way or another.
Sidenote: first thing that came to mind when reading this "and the recollection slowly fades away" damn you. Now that's gonna be on my mind for god knows how long
I agree, the more diversity the better. Besides variety is the spice of life in dating, in friends, in experiences, in life! Happy Friday everyone 🙂
Diversity is amazing. Great post. I'll drink to that… legally in 18 days
This post was the best of the four. Excellent job!
I wish we could all just get along…but, we can't and we don't. It's just as racist now as it ever was. The first thing I thought when dude told you "she don't date black guys" is that is honest…he wasn't trying to set you up for the fall….and he probably likes that she doesn't date black guys..because he doesn't date black girls….I don't really care. I don't date white guys..and if I am a nazi..I don't think so…I just don't find them appealling….I have white girlfriends and the lot…but, I don't want to date a white man…..so, its my preference…its not about not getting along…I get along with everyone…but, its about what you like…
For all the hate he got last week I think people need to applaud Dr J for really putting together a great piece (pause) to close out his Latino Month.
While my natural Island dance moves make it easy for me to merengue and Bachata, I look like a wounded duck trying to get salsa on (i also cant do that whole chi step thing). Plus alot of times the timing that said DJ will go Dominican is just way off. I was just leaving college for the whole reggaeton era, I think that would have helped make the transitions much easier.
LUL had a house. Game. Set. Match. It put them on a level no one could compete with. I guess that is why people shut them down. But don't get me started on Cornell Greek Life, you will start a war of nerds. But while they are alive, LUL made for some of the best nights in college for both blacks and latinos.
While I lived in DC, one of my Dominican friends taught me to merengue and bachata. At first, I felt odd being the only non-fluent Spanish speaker in the crowd, but I grew to not care. The one guy in the group was chocolaty brown and it was my first experience with Spanish speaking blacks.
Thats the ONE thing I miss about DC…..*le sigh*. The people!!! VA is…..SMDH…something else……This is why living here is hard….It seems as if most people are stuck in some sort of time warp?
I can get along with most, regardless of background differences. I like to learn anyway so this helps.
I do not have time to compete or compare with anyone. That energy is best used preparing my own life!
I live in VA too and noticed that it is a bit more diverse in DC than VA. Unfortunately, I have not learned how to salsa, merengue and all that, so I look like Im doing the twist while stomping on bugs at the same time when I attempt to do master the dances :-/
*michael jordan shrug*
VA is VERY different to say the least.
Good way to wrap it up, Dr. J.
1. I don't date white men. See Baby Brett for further information.
2. I would love for us all to get along. Unfortunately, racism still plays a part in our everyday lives, whether you want to admit it or not. I think the best way for us all to come together is to have a real and honest discussion about racism, and the ways institutionalized racism, colonialism, and European imperialism has psychologically effed us up. Personally, I think we are afraid to have these conversations because of the realness that may come out of such communitcation.
3. I understand you were upset that she didn't date black dudes. It upset me when I found out my half Mexi/half white roomie couldn't speak Spanish, and spent her entire life devoid of any and all Mexican culture because her mother wasn't Mexican. But then it dawned on me, her father married the whitest white woman he could find, and did not share his culture b/c he didn't want to. My guess is that he wanted his kids to be seen as white, not as Mexican. And non-black POC do this all the time because they want that white privilege. Unfortunately, attitudes like this will keep us apart. Yeah, it sucks, but you have to see it for what it is. Your friend probably doesn't date black women. Of all the non-black men you knew in undergrad, how many of them were really interested in dating black women in comparison to the black men really interested in non-black women? This is why the interracial dating argument isn't valid. Real talk, dating a, African-American woman, who isn't a celebrity, is not a come up in the great USofA. Its sad to think my potential Sayid may not want me or his parents will have an issue with me because I'm not Indian, or because I'm not white.
Like I tweeted yesterday, good post. I enjoyed it.
Viva la raza!!
And one more thing, I have naturally fantastic rhythm, and I can pick up almost any dance. I'm a beast with the latin dances. Then, throw in a cupid shuffle just to mix it up a bit, and finish with an old classic like "Get Low" or "Shake That Monkey". lol.
I can def feel the passion in your writing, just need to sharpen it a lil bit.
Good point tho…
I was waiting to give you a welcome to see if you commented again, so welcome!
NYC and Miami are special cases. There are so many immigrants that the culture there is just different than the country at large.
A place like LA is more reflective. LA is as diverse as it comes but it is highly segregated. As is DC in my opinion.
But as I see it, I generally don't see any tension between blacks and latinos. Some politicians would love to see us fighting but the truth is, only blacks and latinos in the gang culture seem to have a problem with each other.
America is not so much a melting pot as it is a tossed salad. Meaning integration seems to be a pipe dreams. Americans self segregate in schools, church and neighborhoods. Tribalism is on the rise in general throughout the world. Sometimes I wonder if this will ever end.
N.I.A funny comment about the Mexican guy that wanted white kids. I work with a guy that goes by a typical white guy name. Then one day when I had to pay him we see he has a very ethnic government name. And he switches back and forth depending on the audience. Even though he is not black I couldn't help but think of him as a sell out. LOL.
As a man let me tell you, it can't be a tossed salad because men will always attempt to sleep with [insert anything here] women. It's a melting pot.
As Dave Chappelle said, "My d*ck is a humanitarian."
"America is not so much a melting pot as it is a tossed salad."
1st- Haha…
2nd- my brother calls America more of a mosaic, so I get what you're saying.
"N.I.A funny comment about the Mexican guy that wanted white kids. I work with a guy that goes by a typical white guy name. Then one day when I had to pay him we see he has a very ethnic government name. And he switches back and forth depending on the audience"
Yeah, one of my college classmates would go by his Hmong name in class, but would go by Scott at work. We found out because a few of us had gone to his job for something and we asked if he was there. The employee was like, "Who?" We repeated it and the manager came up and said, "oh, you mean Scott." We were like, "Scott?" It was funny, but you see it quite a bit, especially down here in the South.
LOL……Scott.
Don't forget Barack used to be Barry. LOL
LOL!
Thanks for the shoutout to Hispanic Heritage Month. I appreciate the effort.
"We are all the same. We all have different stories, but they read the same with the same lessons." Just needed to be said again.
"In my opinion, there’s nothing better than a diverse group of friends." I'm in full agreement, it's the only way that things will ever change.
sn: Loooved that movie.
Good post, Dr. J!
My brother pledged LUL, actually. He also speaks fluent Spanish and Portuguese. When we went to the DR, they thought he was Dominican and I was a nobody, LOL. I guess I totally didn't fit in. They couldn't believe we were brother/sister.
Real Talk, I'm feeling really Visceral At The Moment
@J I Agree, Tribalism, Segregation, Is What It Is… As long as humans beings been in existence, there has always been that Us-Vs.-Them Mentality… We are all affected… I think it is hardwired from the factory…
But change is a surprising animal though, so, you never know
Only when a
motherfuckerneeds your support, [Aka Crisis] (s)he puts aside is prejudices & Now We Are United & Friends (see: Civil War, World War 1&2, 9/11, etc.)It's like that saying, "Free your mind and your a$$ will follow." I think in this country we intellectually accept the fact that we are all equal. And that diversity is good. But our actions don't show that we have accepted that.
We integrated the school systems and people started sending their kids to private school. Our churches are segregated. And our neighborhoods are no where near as diverse as we like to claim. I always joke that when a white person in the DMV says they live in a "Diverse Neighborhood" they mean the neighborhood is mostly white with a few minorities sprinkled in. "See look…I'm not racist…I have two black neighbors." LOL Funny thing is if you have a neighborhood that is mostly black with a few whites and asians…..no one says you live in a "Diverse Neighborhood." They say you live in a black neighborhood.
My point is that our society is still very much segregated.
My point is that our society is still very much segregated.
I concur. We have a segregated mentality. Within a single brain, doctors consider a segregated mentality as a disability. So as a single society it's a disability that disables us from reaching harmony and sometimes even simple understanding.
Great post, Doc!
I am one of those people with Mexican flowing through my veins, but 0 stake in Mexican culture. I don't speak Spanish (aside from the required swear words), I can BS my way through a couple Latin dances, and I really don't relate to anything in the Mexican culture. Then again, I didn't have my father (the source of my Mexican blood) in my life, although I'm sure he wasn't big on his culture either. It saddens me to write all that, because I should be more aware of that part of me.
As for dating, I'm open to dating anyone from anyone race, as long as I find them attractive.
*Applause*
Amazing ending to your Heritage posts. Although I still am a bit disappointed about the comments in all the other post, this has been the best of all time.
As a Messikan, its funny to look at people's faces when they learn that I don't date Messikans at all… or any other light skinned males… This specially baffles my dad's side of the family and my Nazi grandma.. I find it amusing.
"You were brought here, we want to be here"… we're all going thru the same struggles, just different times. Still the same sh*t different toilet/letrine.
As far as the dancing goes, give me a beat on the congas or drums and it's on! Lol… It took me a bit longer to learn Bachata, but I mastered it down, now, as far as dropping it like its hot #Snoop and shaking it like a salt shaker #LilJonEastSideBoys, that took me little to no time to learn! LOL!!! Plus I think it helps when the BF at the time, who's black, was teaching me how to drop it: "Just imagine you're riding a d*ck and you're poppin' it, and I KNOW you know how to do that…" Yeahp I learned LMAO!!!
We just need to unite… be a mosaic like someone said up there… and then we can finally finish waking this sleeping giant and make some damn changes!
Race surely can’t be the reason you give God on judgment day that things didn’t work out with whom he intended for you to be with.
Great closing. The quote above is killer.
Oh and Lance Gross is mad dark chocolate sexy!!! The things that I'd do to that man! Oooooh! *Fans self* And that smile…
*faints*
#ThatIsAll
Oh das dude from that Tyler Perry joint……..
I remember thinking….dude you know every dude in a hood movie that's about to get a scholarship get shot……two minutes later dat bamma got shot. ROFL
R.I.P
Cornbread
Cocheece
Ricky
ROFL
Hahaha so true!
Don't forget Sharif from Menace II Society, all for helping Ronnie and Caine get packed and move to Atlanta.
The moral of the story: never help anyone move.
Oh nah….that one goes against the trend. Stacey made it to Kansas City for his football scholarship. LOL
Excellent Finale
This post made me giggle! I feel the same as you, i like for there to be diversity…i hate hearing the same ish (like in AL) and just being around the same people…it gets boring!
Great post!