What’s good everyone,
As I stated on our Facebook fan page, and here too, we the SBM writers, would implement a new feature where from time to time we would answer a question you have from 5 different perspectives in a paragraph or less. I think it’s a great way to interact with you, and give you quick insights into our different ways of thinking, which makes the site dynamic. So without further adieu, here the question of the week:
SBM Staff: What’s the one thing that you think men will NEVER get about women?
SBM
Men are, and always will be incapable of one thing when it comes to women. There is just one facet that is seems that none of us will understand and I don’t foresee it changing anytime soon. Basically … we will never understand “chic logic”. We can learn to live with it, we can learn to tolerate it, and we may even pick up rudimentary prediction abilities, but … we don’t understand it. It doesn’t make sense, it’s not logical, and I don’t think it ever will to us. Maybe one day it will change … and then we can get a decent understanding, but until then … no dice.
Dr. J
Hair! Why are women infatuated with messing with their hair? I just don’t get it. I feel as though once I settled on a haircut, I just stayed there. For me, there’s only two haircuts you get, in the summer you get the “Dave Chappelle” Caesar, and in the winter you get the Kanye 808s & Heartbreak look. That’s it though. But women … oh women … you dye it, cut it, highlight it, layer it, tint it, rinse it, kinky curls, Shirley Temple curls, salon curls, straighten it, blow it out, take a shower and let it rock, ush bushes, afro puffs, twist it, put it in a french bun, pull it back, pull it to the side, pull it in a ponytail (even though it ain’t no tail on it), lock it, cut it, go natural, they put weaves in, extensions in, horse hair, human hair and even Indian hair. Is anything going to last? AND THEN, they want to know our feedback on their hair when A) It doesn’t ever stay the same, and B) It might be a reach. I’m not attacking you, I simply just don’t understand it. Dizza: So why’d you stop talking to her? Me: Because she’s a perfectionist, I mean, have you noticed that her hair was always perfect?! Dizza: No, LOL, but here she comes… Her: So I went natural, what do you think? Me: That was stupid. Natural just isn’t for everyone.
So those were our thoughts, what about you? Do you cosign or nosign? Lets discuss, n sh*
– SBM Staff
How can the natural hair that grows out of your scalp NATURALLY not be for you??? That's like saying someone's natural eye or skin color doesn't suit them.
I think he's saying the unprocessed natural hair..is not for him. Alot of men feel that way…and women too. I tried it…but, it wasn't natural all the way…because I would have it pressed…and I am not brave enough to rock it freestyle…it would be an afro for sure…lol. Not saying afro's are bad…I've seen a few that are really nice…just not for me.
Something about "I'm not attacking you, I simply just don't understand it" was lost in translation.
Put the vaseline down and your earrings back on. I'm not arguing with yall today.
I was wondering why the defensiveness, since it was just a question, then I read yesterday's post and last week…mmm I see.
I don't know about all women, however I use logic (cartesian spirit), common sense and even statistics (!) when I talk to a man about what I want or not.
What I understand is that my logic often doesn't make sense to those who don't like my answer…
ejemplo: I don't want you. (According to men's logic, one would think it was enough.)
Mr ''Super Emo + Panty Meat'' has an ex wife, 2 kids in the US, lives with a woman with whom he has 1 kid in To.
DRAMA. DRAMA. DRAMA.
He tracked me down on FB, waits for me in the pkg lot, looks for me all over the building (we work together), not to mention the texts and phone calls.
Oh I forgot when he said ''I am amazed that M. is sexi when she eats cookies'' in the middle of the training room, everybody stared at me !
In a nutshell, I don't understand your inability to accept ''no'' as an answer.
This has nothing to do with the post for today, but my name is Martinique also!
I don't understand how you cannot understand our logic? Its based in truth and general common sense…..it's really quite simple.
As far as changing up our hair….we're women and we generally have more hair then you..so, we can change it up…if I only could I could rock a fade or something low maintenance like that…and still be considered beautiful and get a man's attention…..and not have society think I'm a lesbian…not saying that women who rock a fade aren't beautiful and they all are lesbians..but, I'm just saying.
I thought you might have mentioned our emotional ways..but, perhaps you understand why that is a little more.
Women logic is not logic… there I said it.
Nobody can explain why they don't get a woman's logic though…what don't you get? I find women are usually using all the facts and the truth to determine the logic……I don't think men are logical. That may be the problem.
QueenT for real you think chick logic makes sense??
Maybe this whole thing is lost on me, but I don't understand how it's not logical. I know a few women who just don't seem to have common sense and aren't logical, but in general I don't see it. In my experience the only difference is that women will use every single little piece of the puzzle to form her logic, while men tend to use the biggest (or most important) pieces to come to their conclusions.
@Sane – perfectly articulated.
*starts making phone calls to get this poor woman paid for the work that she does*
My logic has never been questioned by any man….I can only speak for myself. lol.
Dr. J if you think of hair as an accessory then and only then will you understand. LOL. I can't rock the wavy Shakira look on a formal dress night… they don't go together. That's like your best suit & your Nike dunks = not the bidness.
This reminds me of that really cute girl at the cookout with that horrible horrible weave. Like, seriously what nested in your head and left that mess behind? Bad weave ruined her whole look. smh.
All I know is that I'm lovin' the woman's 360 waves in the photo…wow…purty purty! She's rockin' that look! That look would not look "logical" on me though. "tis all".
Woman logic is impeccable, lol. Perhaps men have a hard time understanding it because it factors in current, anticipated and desired emotional outcomes. Really though…sometimes we're just pms'ing. #justbegladitaintyou
I've never been one to change my hair like I change my outfit – but does a ponytail count as its own style? I think of it more as a style alternative. Most of the versatile hair queens that I know use some weave to achieve the look without damage. I'd rather be eating ice cream.
"Woman logic is impeccable, lol. Perhaps men have a hard time understanding it because it factors in current, anticipated and desired emotional outcomes."
Go on and say that. ^^^
It's illogical not to factor in all the variables. Some times it seems that men think that feelings/emotional outcomes are a null variable
but they are just wrong.Some times women's logic is wackadoo
"I don't want him to think I'm a slore so I'll just sleep with Mike until he puts in his 90 days", but some times men's logic is fugged up toojust the tip?? WDDTA?.I call shenanigans on your man logic example.
The man is implying that after the tip is in for a lil bit, she'll be in the mood for the rest.
Case closed.
Precisely, faulty logic. I said "no thank you" to the chexy time and you said – "Oh you DON'T want to have chex? That's cool. How about we just have CHEX then!" Like it was a whole different idea..nope, still chex. Still no.
Starita, they do this because…
a) There are a lot women out there who let them get away with it.
b) Why not try?
Starita, the logic is, well, perfectly logical. He wants to have $ex. He says/does what is necessary to have $ex. Woman caves in and has $ex with him.
Mission accomplished. Even if she says no, he's still trying to get what he wants.
*grumbling, hangs up the phone from the "Pay the Welcoming Committee" pledge drive*
Allllllright, Faulty Man Logic take 2:
– Men that want a freak on the side cause they can't look at their SO/wife/mother of their kids "like that" o_O You'd rather disrespect her by sleeping with a skank than to give her a pearl necklace. Eff outta here.
@ Rita – LOL, I've been trying to get Sane paid for a minute. Now she gone go and mess up her support committee.
@Hugh – Mission is not accomplished when the man does not get what he wants. Doggedly applying a failing tactic to a situation hoping for a different result is not logical.
Thank you mama and can someone run that definition of insanity by me one mo' 'gin?
Something bout using the same
wackplayed outthirsty lookingdesperatetactics over and over expectingsome @ssa different result…@Teflon You know I'm not trying to lose my support committee. I'm not saying that I agree with this tactic or find it to be anything but sad, I just understand why they do it. 60% of the time, it works every time. Women who give in to this are just the encouragement they need to try it on every woman.
Starita: ”Allllllright, Faulty Man Logic take 2:
– Men that want a freak on the side cause they can’t look at their SO/wife/mother of their kids “like that” o_O You’d rather disrespect her by sleeping with a skank than to give her a pearl necklace. Eff outta here.”
That is selfish, trifiling and disrespectful, but not necessarily illogical.
Teflon: “Hugh – Mission is not accomplished when the man does not get what he wants. Doggedly applying a failing tactic to a situation hoping for a different result is not logical.”
Because it never happens that when a woman says no a few times, she will eventually say yes. That tactic got Barack married. Even in this example, if she caves in, the strategy worked.
"That is selfish, trifiling and disrespectful, but not necessarily illogical."
Well… if this isn't considered illogical, then nothing a woman says/does should be either.
*picks the phone back up…*
"Listen SBM, Sane is providing a service here…you're gonna pay a lady! Don't tell me about your bills, we see these adds for afroromancedotcom and whatnot…eff you. Pay Sane!"
😉
Hugh: “That is selfish, trifiling and disrespectful, but not necessarily illogical.”
Sane: “Well… if this isn’t considered illogical, then nothing a woman says/does should be either.”
It is only illogical if he values his wife/SO and doesn’t want to risk losing her. But obviously if he did value her, he wouldn’t be giving other chicks pearl necklaces. Therefore, he doesn’t value the main chick, he just enjoys the service she provides. He’s getting what he wants from the main chick and getting what he wants from the side chick. The ends justify the means. Perfectly logical. He needs his a$$ whooped, but his actions are logical.
Haha! Women's logic….well I can see it both ways and I DO see how a man couldn't get it. Sometimes, it doesn't make sense, other times, it makes perfect sense. Anyway, MANY men have said the same thing, so I understand.
Hair- So Flyy said it. Hair is an accessory. Also, historically speaking, hair was/is very much an integral part of African culture so much so that it was considered to be on a spiritual level and the different styles was a form of communication, but I digress.
Women love changing up things, including hair. Why do we really need 5+ pair of black shoes? Because we like variety and one pair of black shoes does not work with everything. Just like one hairstyle/color/cut does not work with every style/occasion. We adapt to the situation/occasion. It is what it is. #kanyeshrug
these last few years I have learned this: women, in all of of yall's infinite AWESOMENESS…are emotionally based decision makers. MORE TIMES THAN NOT. "why dont you like her?"
A:"I dont know, I JUST DONT."
sounds like a womans logic. If my corporate aspirations dont work out, I wanna be a LIFE COACH..but only to WOMEN.
I love yall…please make sure that the court stenographer gets that…but when I see a very smart/intelligent woman making a decision based mainly on emotion/how she feels/no rhyme or reason…I dont even get mad anymore. I just say "shes a woman.THATS WHAT THEY DO. it is what it is".
as a man, all you can do is attempt to shape her logic, though wanting to do that, is almost irrational in itself. womens logic is like MATRIX CODE. too bad I cant decipher that ish.
LOVE YALL….lol
Well Dayl8 –
Be glad – look at yourself as man in all your manly glory and really ask yourself:
If women WERE like men; how would this world be? Seriously, would you WANT that?
#fadetoblack
Beef Bacon,
what you imply is absolutely right. I love the balance that women bring to a testosterone fueled world…so kudos. To me, a "woman being a woman" is kinda amusing…yall have quirks like we do…but lets face it, and I dont think anyone is debating this: yall do lean more towards the side of emotional based decision making. and let me also add…its a nessecary "evil" per se…for lack of better word. so in essence, thank you for the tears that come "out of nowhere", your temper tantrums because I wont do something you want me to AT THAT SECOND, and your emotional imbalance. if yall thought like us MEN…that wouldnt be so amusing at all. I get mad at yall but cant help laughing at the same time.
In the situation provided, more often than not, the woman knows exactly why she doesn't like that person. Whether it's jealousy or some other reason, she probably just doesn't want to tell you or can admit it to herself. For the instances where they really just don't know, it's more like they can't put their finger on it.
agree. but its still funny.
In the situation provided, more often than not, the woman knows exactly why she doesn’t like that person.
AMEN! Cosign Sane W/ 10K down. I would like to call it women's intuition. #thankyouJesusforit.
women's logic is flawed because it's based mostly on emotion. when emotion is entered into the equation 2+2 can equal 5. i know as far as i'm concerned most times my logic is based on fact. i think more with my head than my heart. women are the opposite.
Wait – 2+2 does not equal 5?!? Are you sure??
In max-logic's world, YES ! lol
LOL @ Max…gotta love you.
Facts without emotions are for computers only.
For example: When you purchase a car, are you not only looking at the details of the vehicle, but you’re also imagining how you would look in that ride as well. So don't act like men aren't emotional Mad.
i never said that men weren't emotional. i'm emotional as they come but when it comes time to seperate emotional from logic men do a way better job than women.
LOL- hmmmmmm…..
Please give examples….
girl and boy are dating.
boy starts acting differently.
girl suspects boy is cheating.
girl rationalizes his behavior.
girl finds condom wrapper at his house (they don't use them).
girl wants to leave but she loves him and she makes excuses to stay.
boy eventually leaves girl anyway.
——
if this situation were reversed it would go this way.
boy and girl start dating.
girl acts differently.
boy leaves girl.
As much as I hate to…I would agree with you Tunde. I can get VERY emotional and make decisions that seem…dare I say it…irrational. I won't speak for all women but I am an emotional creature and sometimes that really interferes with my logic. However, with that being said, only people that I love and care about can make me become upset and irrational with my decision making.
Ok sure – NOT!
Its not THAT simple Mad and you know it. As I said before facts without emotions are for computers only. Maybe THAT girl is factoring in ALL the variables (which include facts) of the relationship and maybe she just ultimately decides her relationship is worth it—Maybe? No? Or maybe she just keeping dude around until she finds a suitable replacement – Hey ish happens…..
Nowadays, I see men and women ALIKE staying in crazying ish. Men make excuses too, especially if they WHIPPED! Yeah I said it—WHIPPED!!!!
Beef Bacon, I am intrigued by your name and I don't care for bacon and only eat beef on occasion. #tangent
Anyway, I clearly stated that I can not speak for all women. Just me. I have a girlfriend that is VERY logical but then again I think she has too much testosterone running in her blood stream.
That reply was for MadScientist7. But yeah my name is just for kicks. I don't eat it that often either but I think its sort of like me…meaty, taste good and not TOO bad for you…..
Why do most women complain about being single, when mostly every dude that hollas at them gets no play? That's like me wanting an A, but not studying. Wanting muscles, but not working out.
You wanna stop being single, mingle mothaf^cka.
And why do you always need a n!gga to make you laugh? Do I look like black-face-the-laugh-inducing-moon cricket. Mothaf^cka make me laugh. F^ck ya mean. Knowing you have the sense of humor of a d@mn pooper scooper, just sh!tty.
N Im not mad, I just like cursing. Good Day to ALL
So… should we just settle for whatever is thrown our way? I'm holla'd at every day just walking in to work, but these are men standing in line waiting for the DOC to open. It's really not that hard to understand that while we may not like being single, we aren't lonely enough to just snatch up any fool that comes along*.
*I do realize that SOME women are outrageous with their expectations and will pass up some really great guys, but most women aren't like that.
#cosign!!
Chic Logic? I think if you look at it in terms of balance, it would help. I do not think it should be understood, it just IS. Just know that she is not your enemy and that (if chose a good woman) she is only trying to help elevate you. This is what makes me A WOMAN – assimilate as necessary.
I am not sure I understand the issue with the switching of the hair: Men compliment often on my different looks. My mail carrier at work sneaks to my office to say "hi" to see what I look like at least once a week. I love different hairstyles and it generally depends on my mood or occasion. My husband LOVES that about me – I can go from playful styles to professional all in one day. How can I be Nurse Red without a Koolaid red wig?
The flip side of this would be if your woman NEVER changed up, would you get BORED?
High five SBM! Love this post and I hope the trend continues. Women's 'logic' usually isn't logic at all (well my logic anyway). I get it, I do. For men, 2+2=4 all day, everyday. But for women, intuition trumps all that logic. If I 'feel' like my man might be cheating, I'm gonna TEMPORARILY forget all the good stuff that he's done and investigate that feeling. Because honestly, intuition is only our subconscious registering FACTS before the conscious mind does. Women just interpret that as emotion. Men need these things spelled out… #noshots, i'mjustsaying
For me, hair is all about manageability. I tried 50-leven styles until I found the one that takes a total of 10 minutes to rock: 3 minutes in the morning, 7 minutes at night. Some women wanna be all out there with it, but I'm pretty constant with mine now, cause who in the world wants to spend 3 hours in the mirror, achieving coiffed perfection, to have it completely jacked by a soft breeze the minute you get outside? I guess I'm with the men on this one, ladies…
QueenT: “I don’t understand how you cannot understand our logic? Its based in truth and general common sense…..it’s really quite simple.”
LMAO!
Teflon: ”Woman logic is impeccable, lol.”
LOL is right!
“Woman logic” is an oxymoron. The only time women use logic is when they are trying to obtain evidence that their man is cheating. Quotidian actions by women are completely irrational.
Here’s an example from a conversation a friend and I had yesterday at the gym. Why is it you can be in the house with your girl, in different rooms, doing completely different things, but they will get upset if you leave? He was saying he was in one room, she was in the living room watching TV, but as soon as he got up to go to the gym, she got upset. She even tried to use the old “quality time” canard! Most men can relate to a similar story.
The only somewhat, partially logical answer I could come up with is women like a man in the house to feel secure (from what, I don’t know). Can someone explain that “logic”? And this is a very minor example, I just mentioned it because it happened yesterday. Women add two and two and get Q.
Hugh, I would have been upset as well. Do not leave the house without discussing with me if I wanted to do something as a couple….it is called being considerate. Thank.you.very.much!
I agree with you…if actually doing something as a couple. The point was they weren't doing anything together at all. She wasn't even thinking about him until he grabbed his gym bag and prepared to walk out the door. I guess I mentioned his situation because I had a similar situation with my girl about a week ago.
Which brings up something else: she knows he works out pretty regularly, but wants to keep him from going to the gym. She actually thought she "won" because she kept him occupied until around 8:30. When mentioning going to the gym, she said he couldn't because it closes at 9. When he said they close at ten, she was upset. I've noticed women do that a lot.
– Girl meet guy, appreciates he has a nice six/eight pack.
– Starts dating a few months. Wants to monopolize his time and keeps guy from going to the gym.
– Jokingly says in a few months, "you're starting to get soft around the waist." Well, yeah, I wonder why that is!
Men do the same thing Hugh-stop playin……
Dude was looking at me with a gas face when I wanted to go workout one night at eight. I had JUST joined the gym and my schedule only allowed me to go during certain hours.
Now although he admires this coke bottle shape, he allowed his need for my attention to override the realization that it takes work to keep all this tight!
IMO, Most Men expect their women to be available at the snap of a finger….
Beef Bacon: "IMO, Most Men expect their women to be available at the snap of a finger…."
That's not illogical. He wants his woman, he asks for his woman.
My example was different. She doesn't want her man. Her man isn't even on her mind. She wants her man when seeing man is walking out the door. This isn't logical, this is what a child does when he sees another kid playing with his toy that he wasn't even thinking about.
Changing gears: After seeing your name posted all week, I think I'm walking to Culvers for lunch and getting a bacon cheeseburger.
Ok, I agree with the working out example. But, I think men and women do similar things as a way of manipulating their SO. I had homegirl who dated a guy who didn't want her to lose weight, and something to say everytime she went to the gym and counted her Weight Watchers points. Everything she did to better her physical self, he criticized constantly. Basically, he thought that as long as she stayed obese, no one else would want her, and she would never leave him. Crazy.
As for the first situation, did he at least say, "bye babe, I'm heading to the gym", or did she just happen to see him leaving, and then questioned where he was going? If he said something, then I agree with you, but if he had no intention of telling her he was leaving…who does that? Walking out of a house at night without mentioning to anyone in the house that you are leaving is not only illiogical, its rude, impolite, and just reeks of bad manners/poor home training. If I'm chilling on my homeboys couch watching tv while he is in his bedroom studying, what do I look like just getting up and leaving without saying anything?
@ Hugh – "That’s not illogical. He wants his woman, he asks for his woman. "
That is illogical – no one should be available at the snap of a finger. Adults have things to do that don't always involve a SO.
And maybe THAT girl just wanted her man THERE just in case she needed help opening a jar or something…I dunno. And there you go with the theory of mind thing—-you don't KNOW what she was thinking before she saw him leave. She very well could have been planning a surprise pole dance or something. So its illogical to think that there are not valid reason to her being upset. Granted there are PEOPLE that are just whiny, attention seekers…..SMH
I'm confuzzled now too.
If they wanted to do something as a couple, wouldn't they be in the SAME room?
At first I was going to say that this is just ONE woman, and I bet most would see that this makes no sense. Then you (BP) had to come in and agree, making me feel all wrong and ish.
I don't get the logic in this situation either. Maybe that's why I don't understand the "chick logic" thing… because I've never really experienced it. *shrugs*
Sane: "At first I was going to say that this is just ONE woman, and I bet most would see that this makes no sense. Then you (BP) had to come in and agree, making me feel all wrong and ish."
Which is why Dr. J (I think it was him) said earlier this week that it is difficult to use a specific example when addressing a general topic. But trust me, it happens often enough.
"I don’t get the logic in this situation either. Maybe that’s why I don’t understand the “chick logic” thing… because I’ve never really experienced it. *shrugs*"
And that's why we love you.
Sane, I just want my man to always be considerate. If he wants to go to the gym great ( I am hoping he is doing cardio too and not just a bunch of weights because stamina is wonderful and heart disease is not) but it seems that this gentleman thought just because he was in the other room she wouldn't mind. I personally would mind but I do agree not all women think like me.
I can't speak too much on the hair thing. I'll style it differently and regularly trim it, but I generally don't make drastic changes. When straightened, my hair is pretty stankin long. However, when it's curly, it can shrink up to above my shoulders. I'm too afraid to make drastic changes.
I think there are a few reasons for the hair thing:
1. Most woman have so much of it up there, they get bored doing it the same way over and over.
2. It's an easy way for them to express themselves and who they are at that moment.
3. Men notice. From the subtle changes to the outlandish ones it gets our attention.
No need to understand, just use it to your advantage.
boy: yo lets go out
girl: no not interested lets be friends
(2 weeks later)
boy: sup
girl: OMG work is crazy..blabla….
boy: lets grab some drinks
girl: ok, I need a break!!!
SMASH 🙂
Repeat process
NIA: “Ok, I agree with the working out example. But, I think men and women do similar things as a way of manipulating their SO. I had homegirl who dated a guy who didn’t want her to lose weight, and something to say everytime she went to the gym and counted her Weight Watchers points. Everything she did to better her physical self, he criticized constantly. Basically, he thought that as long as she stayed obese, no one else would want her, and she would never leave him. Crazy.”
Yeah, that’s manipulative, crazy, borderline batsh!t crazy, but I wouldn’t say illogical. He wanted her fat. He tried to do things that kept her fat. If he just enjoys a big ole handful of excess adipose tissue, it’s completely logical. Although given the “big-girl love” post last week, if his reasoning for keeping her fat was so no one else would want her, then his reasoning is illogical.
NIA: “… if he had no intention of telling her he was leaving…who does that? Walking out of a house at night without mentioning to anyone in the house that you are leaving is not only illiogical, its rude, impolite, and just reeks of bad manners/poor home training. If I’m chilling on my homeboys couch watching tv while he is in his bedroom studying, what do I look like just getting up and leaving without saying anything?”
I wasn’t there, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t try to do a Batman out the window and sneak out the house. She just wanted him there.
I think it was both that he like big girls, and he didn't want anyone else to find her attractive. He was crazy.
As for your friend, I assumed that he might have mentioned it in the story. So, as I stated, no problem with it if he didn't ry to sneak out like a thief in the night. lol. And, the visual of a guy trying to sneak out the living room window carrying a gym bag and sneakers has kept me amused for the last 10 minutes. lol.
The scenario as you described it was funny to me too! I'm picturing him tiptoeing past the living room door, trying to quietly insert the keys into the lock and close the door slowly.
"please don't hear me, please don't hear me…"
*accidentally drops the gym bag and makes a loud thud*
"N!gga where the $%#& you think you goin?"
"Damn!"
Beef Bacon: “That is illogical – no one should be available at the snap of a finger. Adults have things to do that don’t always involve a SO.”
Asking for her isn’t illogical. And women far more likely are the ones to expect a man to stop what he’s doing to see her than vice versa.
“And maybe THAT girl just wanted her man THERE just in case she needed help opening a jar or something…I dunno. And there you go with the theory of mind thing—-you don’t KNOW what she was thinking before she saw him leave. She very well could have been planning a surprise pole dance or something.”
So since she potentially could want something or potentially is planning something, he should never leave her side? Even though she knows he works out regularly? Keep in mind, “(a)dults have things to do that don’t always involve a SO.”
"So since she potentially could want something or potentially is planning something, he should never leave her side? Even though she knows he works out regularly?" Keep in mind, “(a)dults have things to do that don’t always involve a SO.”
Okay….get that…but taking it a step further….He gots to KNOW the woman he is dealing with. She may be a planner and naturally planners like as much 'advance notice' as possible. If he is not aware that she gets mad every time he just POPS up and want to roll somewhere…someone is not paying attention to his lady's style. That isn't going to change about her, he has to compromise or leave. It's illogical to get upset about her being upset, esp. if she does that EVREYTIME—that's obviously her thing and HE KNEW THAT after maybe the 3rd time she freaked—
Woman logic is the most illogical thing I've ever encountered. Any system that factors in emotion is bond to have problems.
I've seen some women make decisions that are downright dumb and ask them why and they can never explain it. If you don't know your reasoning for a decision then why are you making it?
Men have and continue to do the same thing.
Also, emotions should factor into your decision making. While a job could be perfect in every way, it's not something that you will feel comfortable with ethically though. Should you take it anyway? Some would say yes, but most would say no. That is making a decision based on how it will make you FEEL. There is nothing illogical about this.
Your example is a choice of logic, where the job responsibilties should be evaluated along with everything else, therefore proving the male perspective of weighing important factors.
Say what?!? No, I'm not talking about the degree of difficulty of the job responsibilities or how time consuming they may be. I'm talking about (in this example) how they would make you FEEL ethically. As an example, you work as a surgeon. You love the day to day job duties and the salary is magnificent. Then you're told that your hospital won't perform a surgery that can save a child's life because of the bottom line. This is something that happens repeatedly, and you have to watch as this child dies. Is that not something that would bother you enough to make a move? That is an emotion, and therefore proving the point that I already stated. Even if you are weighing in logical factors, the emotional side must be considered.
Women (well, most women) are just as logical as men. Just because it doesn't make sense to you or isn't a choice you'd make, doesn't mean it's not logic.
Fair enough, but one the most cited references to "women's logic" is when she makes a man that she likes wait to hit, but I sleeping with Big Mike down the block. I see no big dfference in these scenarios
Big Mike has good D and that is all…..on the other hand the other brother may or may not be boo material, the wait is only verifying which.
"Big Mike has good D and that is all…..on the other hand the other brother may or may not be boo material, the wait is only verifying which."
THIS!!!!
Cosign, cosign, cosign….how much do you need down? LOL!
I see this situation to be nothing but logical. A little freak nasty but logical nonetheless.
Actually Sane, I can't argue with that logic. She satisfies her needs of getting to know a good guy on a non-$exual level while having her biological needs met.
Now if Good Guy finds out she's getting stabbed by Big Mike on the side, he might leave, but if they are just in the dating phase, her actions aren't illogical.
I've dated a lady that (with natural hair+natural hair styles) used to be addicted to trimming her hair. She'll get frustrated, start "trimming," then a couple days later be like: "Why isn't my hair growing?!?!?!" LOL. Insanity…
Quoting Maya Angelou: "A woman's hair is her glory." So just leave it at that and work wit ya lady.
Yeah. Once I found me a great barber and a cut, I ran with it. It's not broken so don't fix it.
At the defense of women folk, Women ARE logical. It's their reasoning and metrics that makes the outcomes of logical statements different from men. Meaning they have a different system. Like 2+2=4 ONLY true in a base-10 number system because in binary there aren't any 2's or 4's. But you can translate to different number systems. In the realm of relationships, this bijection is defined through communication. So I never claim to know women in general, just a few very well.
Think I'm wrong? Most women are analytical and Most guys do not understand that thing we call 'logic." Logic is just a method to make a connections between statements. It in itself doesn't define if a statement is true or false. Reason is what determines the statements are true or false.
Metaphor overkill -> Logic just says put one foot in front of the other. Reason defines the shape of the path and it's origin and destination.
I have discarded the idea of women being illogical (clearly!). Instead, I make it clear that the weight they put on their emotions is important since your senses+your emotions define your reality. To ignore the emotional aspect of reality (even with the weight they put on emotions) would be illogical! LOL
Tell your lady that her emotions are NEVER wrong (because it sounds nice and makes them feel that their feels are important AND because it's the truth since feelings are neither right or wrong). They are basically a sense, and experience in which people then past judgment on that reality.
So ladies, feel all you want! (pun intended) lol
"Women ARE logical. It’s their reasoning and metrics that makes the outcomes of logical statements different from men. Meaning they have a different system. Like 2+2=4 ONLY true in a base-10 number system because in binary there aren’t any 2′s or 4′s."
Yeah, but they'd probably still put 10 and 10 together and not get 100.
*ducking shots*
You don't want none of this Shonuff. Me and the girls (the ones in the oven) will wrap you up in so much woman-logic you'll forget your name, lol. Girl power to the 3rd degree. I almost feel sorry for my man.
You don’t want none of this Shonuff. Me and the girls (the ones in the oven) will wrap you up in so much woman-logic you’ll forget your name, lol. Girl power to the 3rd degree. I almost feel sorry for my man.
GirlS? I'm going to pray for your husband. Poor guy.
An older fellow gave me some advice about women and their sense of logic one time, he summed it up perfectly,
He said, "The thing you have to understand about women is, …, and because of that they will, …., therefore if I was you I would, ….., just don't ever tell them that."
I didn't ask any questions and it still holds true.
That is excellent advice. lol. 😉
Here's my contribution:
I think that the one thing that men don't understand about women is that men will never 100% understand women. We try to use our logic and reasoning and past experiences to get a comprehensive view of a situation. We use this emprical data to make educate guesses on some things and act based on trial and error. You might understand why women want the seat down, or get upset at things that might not seem serious to us, but to understand 100% will be a neverending journey. Try to understand the important stuff and go from there!
We all want the same things. I don't understand why everyone wants to make themselves out to be more complex It's all communication and maturity…or lack thereof.
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